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ASUS UltimateRTX PBA Gaming PC - AMD Ryzen7 9800X3D - X870 WiFi Motherboard - 64GB (2x32GB) 6400Mhz DDR5 - NVIDIA GeForce RTX5080 16GB - 2TB M.2 NVMe SSD - ASUS TUF Gaming GT502 Plus Gaming case - ASUS ROG STRIX 1200W Aura GAMING Power Supply - ASUS 360 Liquid ARGB cooler - DOS - 3 Years warranty


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ASUS - TUF-Gaming-GT502-PLUS
ASUS TUF Gaming GT502 Plus Black ATX Mid-Tower Case

: 1 position: right
: max. 400mm Graphics-Cards
: 1x 120mm Fan(s)-(rear)
: partially closed, partially fan grill, dust filter inside right
: 285x450x446mm Dimensions-(WxHxD)
: Mini-ITX (6.7"x6.7")/µATX (9.6"x9.6")/ATX (12"x9.6") Supported-motherboards
ñãøä: Series
: 1 USB-C 3.1
: RGB-Header 3-Pin ARGB ( 5V/DATA/GND), integrated LED control, without Illumination Lighting
: 3x 120mm (optional) and 3x 120mm (optional) or 2x 140mm (optional) Fans-right
: partially closed, mainly fan grill, dust filter outdoor below
: 11.00kg Weight
: not available front, 120/140/240/280/360mm top, 120mm rear, 120/140/240/280/360mm right (1x 120/140/240/280/360mm and 1x 120/240/360mm) radiator-sizes
: 1 Housing side: front
: 8 PCI-slots
: carrying handle, Cable Management, dust filter, Graphics Cards mounting, PCI-slots vertical mountable, side panel window made out of glass, Mehrkammerdesign Special-features
: bottom (vertical) Power-supply position
: max. 163mm height CPU-Coolers
: ASUS TUF Gaming GT502 Plus, Black, Window NAME
: black, inside black Colour
: not available Fans-(left)
: true rgb
: 1 20-Pin Key-A Header)
: 57.20l Capacity
: 3x 120mm or 2x 140mm (optional) Fan(s)-(top)
: partially closed, mainly fan grill, dust filter inside above
: Midi-Tower Type
: not available Fans-(other)
: closed, glass left
: 1 3.5mm jack
: partially closed, fan grill right top, PCI slots bottom (modular, 8x horizontal or Variante2: 3x vertical) aft
: to ATX Motherboard
: 1 Height: top
: 4 2.5"/3.5"
: motherboard-Alignment: to left; Connectors: connectors rear Motherboard-Alignment
: ATX (max. 200mm deep) Power-supply
: not available Fan(s)-(front)
: SKU
: not available external
: 2 USB-A 3.0
: 3x 120mm (optional) Fan(s)-(bottom)
: closed, glass front

ASUS - ROG-STRIX-1200G-AURA-GAMING
1200W 80 Plus Gold ROG Strix Aura Edition - Fully Modular, ATX 3.0, PCIe Gen 5.0, Aura Sync

: 22A 5V
: 1 Quantity-of 12V-Rails
: 4 IDE
: 150x86x180mm Dimensions-(WxHxD)
: ErP Lot 6, RGB-interface 3-Pin ( 5V/DATA/GND), Cases/Enclosures RGB illuminated, supports Haswell C6/C7 Low-Power States, semi-passive mode switchable Special-features
: 4 6/8-Pin PCIe
: 0.3A -12V
: ASUS ROG Strix, ROG-STRIX-1200G Gold Aura Edition, ROG-STRIX-1200G-AURA-GAMING, 1200W ATX 3.0 NAME
: ATX PS/2 shape-factor
: true rgb
: ETA-Gold (115V, loud Cybenetics certificate), ETA-Gold (230V, loud Cybenetics certificate), LAMBDA-A (115V, loud Cybenetics certificate), LAMBDA-A (230V, loud Cybenetics certificate) certificates-loud Cybenetics
: 88.55% (loud 80 PLUS certificate, 115V), 88.13% (loud Cybenetics certificate, 115V), 90.05% (loud Cybenetics certificate, 230V) average-efficiency
: 1 16-Pin PCIe 5.0
: 22A 33V
: 17.84dB(A) (loud Cybenetics certificate, 115V), 17.95dB(A) (loud Cybenetics certificate, 230V) Volume
: 100A 12V
: 5 SATA
: 3A 5Vsb
: 90YE00P0-B0NA00 SKU
: active PFC
: 1 3-Pin RGB-Header
: ATX 3.0 Specification
: 1 20/24-Pin
: black Colour
: 2 4/8-Pin ATX12V
: 135mm, semi-passive Fan(s)
: 80 PLUS Gold (115V, loud 80 PLUS certificate) certificates-loud 80 PLUS
: Series
: 1200 WATT
: fully modular cable-management

ASUS - ROG-STRIX-X870-F-GAMING-WIFI
Socket AM5 - AMD X870 Chipset - WIFI - 4x DDR5 - ATX - ROG Strix Series

: 1 max. 3A
: 16x 110A SiC850A (DrMOS) MOSFETs-VCORE
: 1x PCIe 5.0 x16, 1x PCIe 4.0 x16 (x4) PCIe-Slots
: 1 Thermal-sensor
: Series
: 1 RJ-45 2.5Gb LAN
: iGPU Graphics
éöéàú HDMI 2.1: 1 HDMI 2.1
: RGB, 1 zone (I/O cover) Lighting
: 2 USB 3.0 Header 20-Pin
: 5 fan 4-Pin
: 2 USB 2.0 header 9-Pin
: 5 USB-A 3.1
: 2 8-Pin EPS12V
: DDR5-5200 (Ryzen 7000), DDR5-5200 (Ryzen 8000G - Phoenix), DDR5-5200 (Ryzen 8000G - Phoenix2), DDR5-5600 (Ryzen 9000) RAM-operating-frequency native
: clear-CMOS-Button (external), USB BIOS Flashback (external), PCIe switch (internal), Power-Button (internal) buttons/Switches
: 2 3.5mm jack
øîú øééã: 0/1/10 RAID-level
: 90MB1IV0-M0EAY0 SKU
: 2x 80A SiC629 (DrMOS) MOSFETs-VDDMISC/VCCSA/VCCAUX
: 2x SATA 6Gb/s (X870) Miscellaneous-Interfaces
: 1x 32MB (256Mb) BIOS
: 2 USB4 with DisplayPort 1.4a
: 4 USB 3.0)
: 1 iGPU)
: 2 CPU fan 4-Pin
: 4 USB 2.0)
: 1 PD 30W)
: 1 AIO-pump 4-Pin
: max. DDR5-8000 RAM-operating-frequency OC
: 1 24-Pin ATX
: 4 USB-A 3.0
: 3 3-Pin ARGB
: ASUS ROG Strix X870-F Gaming WIFI NAME
: 1 ASUS Gen2)
: 1 toslink S/PDIF Out
: Realtek ALC4080, AMP (Savitech SV3H712), DTS Sound Unbound, ASUS SupremeFX Audio
: yes ECC-support
àìçåèéåú: Wi-Fi 7 (WLAN 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax/be, 2x2), Bluetooth 5.4 Wireless
: 2 antenna connector Quick Connect
: 16 2 2, 18 virtual CPU-phases (2x8 2), 10 real CPU-phases (8 2) VRM-Design
: Ryzen 7000, Ryzen 8000G - Phoenix2, Ryzen 8000G - Phoenix, Ryzen 9000, CPU-compatibility list CPU-Compatibility
: 2x 110A SiC850A (DrMOS) MOSFETs-SOC/VCCGT
: 1x M.2/M-Key (PCIe 5.0 x4, 2280/2260/2242), 1x M.2/M-Key (PCIe 5.0 x4, 22110/2280/2260/2242), 2x M.2/M-Key (PCIe 4.0 x4, 2280), 1x M.2/E-Key (2230, occupied with WiFi BT module) M2-Slots
: ASP2205 (XDPE192C3B, max. 12 phases) PWM-controller
éöéàú DP 1.4: 1 DisplayPort 1.4
úîéëä á RGB: true rgb
: 1 USB-C 3.2 Key-A Header
: audio solid capacitors, Diagnostic LED (LED indicators), I/O-shield integrated, 4x M.2-passive cooler Special-features
: ATX shape-factor
: 4x DDR5 DIMM, Dual Channel, UDIMM ECC, max. 192GB (UDIMM) RAM-Slots
: 1 USB-C 3.1
: 1 Chassis Intrusion-Header
òøëú ùááéí: AMD X870 chipset
úåùáú: AMD AM5 (LGA1718) Socket

AMD - 100-1000001084
AMD Zen5 Ryzen7 9800X3D 8 Core/16 Threads - Base Clock: 4.7GHz - Max Boost Clock: 5.2GHz - Without Fan - 120W TDP - 9000 Series - Tray

: Series
: AES-NI, AMD-V, AVX, AVX-512, AVX2, FMA3, MMX( ), SHA, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4a, x86-64 CPU-Features
ñãøä: Granite Ridge Codename
úàøéê äù÷ä: 2024/Q4 (7.11.2024) Launch
: AMD Radeon Graphics iGPU-Model
: yes ECC-support
ðéäåì îøçå÷: no Remote-management
îäéøåú ùòåï èåøáå: 5.20GHz Turbo-Clock
ðúéáé ú÷ùåøú PCIe: 28x PCIe 5.0 (available: 24) PCIe-Lanes
ìéèåâøôéä: TSMC 4nm (CPU), TSMC 6nm (I/O) Manufacturing-Process
: 0.56 TFLOPS (FP32) iGPU-processing Power
éçéãåú òéáåã âøôéåú: 2CU/128SP iGPU-Units
: max. DDR5-5600 (PC5-44800, 89.6GB/s) Memory-compatibility
ñèôéðâ: GNR-B0 Stepping
úåùáú: AMD AM5 (LGA1718) Socket
SMT: yes SMT
úàéîåú ìòøëú ùááéí: A620, B650, B650E, B840, B850, X670, X670E, X870, X870E (depending on model: PRO 600, PRO 665, X600) chipset-suitability
: yes Unlocked
: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 8C/16T, 4.70-5.20GHz, tray NAME
: 1 socket (1S) Scalability
: Zen 5 Architecture
îäéøåú úé÷ùåøú ììåç: PCIe 4.0 x4 chipset-Interface
îäéøåú ùòåï áñéñ: 4.70GHz Base-Clock
ùòåï ìéáä âøôéú: 2.20GHz iGPU-Clock
æéëøåï îèîåï L2: 8MiB (8x 1MiB) L2-cache
: 4x display support, AMD Eyefinity, AMD FreeSync, AV1 decode, H.265 encode/decode, VP9 decode, DirectX 12.1, OpenGL 4.5, Vulkan 1.0 iGPU-Features
: RDNA 2, Codename "Granite Ridge" iGPU-Architecture
á÷ø æéëøåï: Dual Channel DDR5, max. 192GB Memory-controller
: without CPU cooler Scope-of Delivery
: yes (AMD Radeon Graphics) Graphics
ôìç ùå÷: desktop (Mainstream) Segment
: DDR5-5600 (1DPC/1R), DDR5-5600 (1DPC/2R), DDR5-3600 (2DPC/1R), DDR5-3600 (2DPC/2R) Memory-compatibility extended (DIMM)
: 95C (Tjmax) Max-Temperature
: 16 Threads
: 100-000001084 SKU
ìéáåú: 8 (8C) Cores
: 120W TDP
æéëøåï îèîåï L3: 96MiB (32MiB 64MiB 3D-cache) L3-cache
: DP 2.0, HDMI 2.1 iGPU-Interface

Patriot - PVV564G640C32K
64GB (2x32GB) 6400MHz DDR5 CL32 - AMD EXPO/Intel XMP 3.0 - Viper Venom

Kingston - SFYRD-2000G
2000GB (2TB) SSD PCIe NVMe™ Gen4x4 M.2 2280 - Phison E18 - 3D TLC - 7300/7000MB/s - FURY Renegade Series - SFYRD/2000G

: Series
: not specified (DDR4), SLC-Cache cache
: 7000MB/s SLC-Cached Write
: 2000 CapacityGB
: 9.9W (maximum), 2.8W (operation), 0.36W (idle), 0.005W (Sleep mode) Power-consumption
: 1.8 Mio. hours (MTBF) Reliability-prediction
: Phison PS5018-E18, 8 channels controller
: M.2 2280 shape-factor
: NVMe 1.4 Protocol
: 1000k/1000k IOPS-4K read/Write
: 2PB TBW
: 80x22x3.5mm Dimensions
: 7300MB/s Read
: Solid State modules (SSM) Type
: 3D-NAND TLC memory-modules
: M.2-Cooling Blocks Special-features
ðôç áèøáééè: 2 CapacityTB
çéáåøéåú: M.2/M-Key (PCIe 4.0 x4) Interface

Zotac - ZT-B50800B-10P
NVIDIA GeForce RTX5080 16GB GDDR7 - AMP Extreme INFINITY

: 332.1x137.5x69.6mm (LxWxH) Dimensions
: Blackwell (from 2025/Q1) Chip-Architecture
: 57.42 TFLOPS (FP16), 57.42 TFLOPS (FP32), 0.9 TFLOPS (FP64) GPU-Computing-power
: Series
: 378mm, monolithisch, 45.6 Mrd. Transistoren Chip-size
: 360W (NVIDIA), max. 360W (Zotac) TDP/TGP
: full height PCI-slot bracket
: 2295MHz clock-Base
: 84SM (10752SP / 336TMU / 128ROP), 84 RT Cores, 336 Tensor Cores, 64MiB L2 cache Chip-Configuration
: 1 HDMI 2.1b
: - Multi-GPU-Interface
: DirectX 12 Ultimate (12_2) / CUDA 12.8 / Vulkan 1.3 / OpenCL 3.0 / OpenGL 4.6 / Shader Model 6.8 API-support
: true rgb
: Quad Slot (3.5 Slots) total-height
: 16GB GDDR7, 256bit, 30Gbps, 1875MHz, 960GB/s Memory
: PCIe card (full height) Type
: >1801 TOPS AI-Computing-power
: Chip-data
: Zotac Gaming GeForce RTX 5080 AMP Extreme INFINITY, 16GB GDDR7, HDMI, 3x DP NAME
: GB203-400-A1 Chip-title
: 1x 12V-2x6 (via adapter: 3x 8-Pin PCIe) Power-connections
: TSMC 4nm Chip-Manufacturing-Process
: 2670MHz clock-Boost
: Raytracing (4th Gen NVIDIA RTX, 171 TFLOPS), NVIDIA Tensor (5th Gen, 1801 TOPS), HDCP 2.3 Chip-functions
: 3 DisplayPort 2.1b UHBR20
: AV1 (8bit / 10bit), H.265 (8bit 4:2:0 / 10bit 4:2:0 / 12bit 4:2:0 / 8bit 4:4:4 / 10bit 4:4:4 / 12bit 4:4:4), H.264, VP9 (8bit / 10bit / 12bit), VP8, VC-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-1 decoding
: 2x NVENC (9th Gen, max. Sessions: 8), 2x NVDEC (6th Gen), Info Transcoding-Engine
: AI-acceleration, LED lighting (RGB), Backplate, RGB-synchronization (3-Pin ARGB), Dual BIOS switch, Graphics Cards-Mounting Special-features
: 06.01.2025, Marktstart: 30.01.2025, UVP: 999 USD/1.169 EUR (NVIDIA) Vorstellung-(series)
: 3x Axial-fan (100mm) with 0dB-zero-fan-mode Cooling
: ZT-B50800B-10P SKU
: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 Model
: 53MHz Boost overclock
: PCIe 5.0 x16 Interface
: AV1, H.265 (4K YUV 4:2:0 / 4K YUV 4:4:4 / 4K Lossless / 8K / HEVC 10bit support / HEVC B Frame support), H.264 (YUV 4:2:0 / YUV 4:4:4 / Lossless) encoding

Corsair - CW-9061018-WW
360mm iCUE LINK TITAN 360 RX RGB AIO Liquid CPU Cooler - Black

: 3x 120x120x25mm, 300-2100rpm, 17.67-124.89m/h, 10.4-73.5 CFM, 10-36dB(A), 0.12-4.33mmHO, magnetic barometric bearing Fan(s)
: 12V Pump
: AM5, AM4 CPU-AMD
: Series
: LED (RGB), 3-Pin ARGB ( 5V/DATA/GND), LED control Lighting
: CPU, copper Cooling-Blocks
: not available Reservoirs
: Corsair iCUE LINK Titan 360 RX RGB, black NAME
: 1 not available
: 1851, 1700 CPU-Intel
: 396x120x27mm Dimensions-(LxWxH)
: true rgb
: CW-9061018-WW SKU
: internal (closed System) Type
: 360mm (Radiatorklasse), 27mm (Radiatorhhe), aluminium radiator
: incl. fan control Special-features



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